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Genghis Khan – Mongolian or Chinese?

According to the article below Mongolia and China are both claiming Genghis Khan. I follow the imperial way as it pertains to the Han dynasties because I am Han.

Article: Battle for Mongolia’s Soul

Do they need more territory as it is? No. I only care about China proper (See the China proper map) because that is the real Han territory. China proper is big enough as is – basically all of the Song territory. I’m even happy with just the Southern Song territory because that is not too small. I don’t care about Manchuria, Inner Mongolia, Tibet, and Xinjiang (East Turkestan). Trade? Sure. Doing business is fine. Cultural exchanges? Sure. That is fine too. Travel and tourism? Sure. As long as you keep the neo-nazi and terrorist groups at bay if I’m going to be a tourist and you want my tourist dollars for your economy. They can all become independent (and Inner Mongolia can reunify with Mongolia) and I don’t really care. Good luck to them. Some of them have formed terrorist groups (as long as they don’t attack me because I don’t really care if they want to become independent).

He is Mongolian – he wasn’t “Chinese” and there was no “Chinese” during the time of conquest even though he played a major role in “Chinese” history. According to the nationality law and in the eyes of Mongolians in Mongolia, even the ethnic Mongolians born in Inner Mongolia are not considered to be Mongolian nationals. They only consider people BORN inside their modern-day territory to be real Mongolians and it has to be to at least one Mongolian NATIONAL parent. But Genghis Khan was BORN in Mongolia’s modern-day territory. He was a Mongol who conquered the Hans and completely wiped out the Song Empire during the decisive Battle of Yamen in Sinwoi/Sunwui/Xinhui, Hoisan/Toisan/Taishan County. That’s the other city in my ancestors’ county. That’s like saying it happened in San Jose and I was in Santa Clara – both are in Santa Clara County in the San Francisco Bay Area. My ancestral city of Hoipeeng/Hoiping/Kaiping is NOT THAT FAR from where it happened. We were the last stand in the battle between the Han-led Song forces and the Mongol forces. The Song Dynasty ended in my ancestral county. There were a lot of refugees at the time who followed the imperial court there.

“China” and “Chinese” came into being during the Republican period with the KMT (Remember the five-coloured flag that preceded the white star and blue sky flag?). If I had lived before they did away with the imperial system, I would have said I am a Han. I would have no concept of “Chinese”.

So I say he goes to Mongolia. He is also a national hero there.

On Chinatown history:

This is true if you went to Chinatown and tried to look for work up to the 1970s. “你唔曉唐話,我幾好請你啊? [ni33 m22 hiau55 hɔŋ22 va325 ŋɔi33 gi55 hɔu215 tiaŋ55 ni33 a33] You do not speak Chinese [Taishanese]. How could I hire you?”

Please refer to the following links for more information about the Battle of Yamen in Sunwui (Xinhui), Toisan (Taishan) and the official end of the Song Dynasty.

An interesting video clip on the imperial descendants of the last Song emperor in Sunwui (Xinhui), Toisan (Taishan).

Joo Gi Hong (Zhujixiang) as the old halfway house for migrants from today’s Northern and Central China to Canton (Guangdong) province. Below is an excerpt from the article.

“From the Tang Dynasty (618-907) (唐朝) onwards waves of migrants came to northern Guangdong Province via the Plum Pass/Meiguan into Nanxiong County (南雄縣). Most of the officials’ families settled down in old Zhujixiang in Shashui Township (沙水鎮) and lived there for several generations. Many of the old buildings still remain and now contain small shrines in the front facing the cobbled lane. All of the original residences that probably housed officials are referred to by surname as Zuju (祖居)(ancestral home) or Guju (故居)(old home). In historical terms, Zhujixiang (珠璣巷) can perhaps now be labeled as a “half-way house” in terms of the migration of people from central and northern China toward the south over the centuries.”

“This place was quite unique, even for China, as it became a focal point of congregation in northern Guangdong Province for all the different clans that fled south which also included court officials during the waning years of the Southern Song Dynasty (1127-1279) (南宋朝).”

Regarding the Mei Pass, the migrants would have passed through the Mei Pass to get to what is now Canton (Guangdong) province. It is our version of Route 66 or the Roman Roads. My ancestors would have passed through the Mei Pass (wherever they were originally from in what is now Northern and Central China) and then stopped by Joo Gi Hong (Ju Gei Hong or Zhujixiang) to get to Hoisan (Toisan or Taishan) County or Thlee Yeep (Sze Yup/Siyi or Four Counties) centuries ago. Some other people went to other cities and counties such as Canton (Guangzhou) or to Thlam Yeep (Sam Yup/Sanyi or The Three Counties), Joong San (Zhongshan), etc.

On Imperial Era Vengeful Spirits and Remaining Apolitical

There are angry, depressed, and teary-eyed vengeful imperial era spirits/energy working in unison in our realm today regardless of their ethnicity. The excerpt below is eerily accurate about the state of affairs today. Both China and Taiwan claim to be the legitimate successors to or offspring of the Qing/Ch’ing Dynasty (they both use Mandarin as the official language) like the Manchu princes fighting for the throne during the Qing/Ch’ing era. I don’t dispute it when there are some enthusiasts who tell me that China and Taiwan “belongs” to the Manchus/Mongols. The concept of it is true at the very least. Look at the territories that both claim to be theirs and then look at the Qing/Ch’ing maps. Southern China including Hong Kong and Macau are derived from the Tang/Song Dynasties – they all speak Southern Chinese dialects/languages that are descended from the original Old and Middle Chinese and they all know that. We always call ourselves “Tang people (唐人)” instead of “Han people (漢人)”, but they are really the same thing. Or referring to Cantonese cuisine (粵菜) as “Tang cuisine (唐餐)” among ourselves. That is why there are separatist movements in the South whose geography is not completely unlike the territory under the Southern Song Dynasty and whose separatist movements are not unlike the Han rebel movements during the Mongol Yuan and Manchu Qing/Ch’ing Dynasties.

You have to be crazy if you think there is not something there.

The KMT being infiltrated by double-agents that is not unlike the Ming Dynasty traitors. Even now I think there are double-agents in that party in Taiwan. They need to examine themselves. Mao using Qin Shihiangdi’s methods to create a new writing system and to carry out the Hundred Flowers Movement and Cultural Revolution. Chinese people immigrating abroad in perpetuity due internal problems not unlike the Toisanese migration during the late Q’ing/Ch’ing era and well into the 20th century. The civil war era refugees are like the southward and overseas migrations during the Mongol invasions during the Southern Song era. I do feel like as do some of the other enthusiasts that there is some sort of imperial curse from all the Han and non-Han dynasties for doing away with them completely. We are cursed to always fight among ourselves and never be truly unified under any form of republican-style government because we did away with the imperial system completely. This is very, very creepy and eerie. I am not following any of modern-day territories. It is best to follow the imperial culture and ways – food/drink (cuisine), the religions, the festivals along with the dress, philosophical ways of being, etc.

No matter what they become or how bad they get, that love is unconditional like that of a parent because the monarchy is above politics. It wouldn’t have mattered if the last dynasty was Han or not, that love is unconditional. The people who lived through the dynastic period consider themselves to be above politics – China, Taiwan, Southern China, Hong Kong, and Macau are their children depending on which period you are talking about. Just ignore them and their crazy rants because they will always fight like siblings. Take the culture out of its political context, keep the spirit of the 2000 year old imperial tradition alive, and keep progressing onwards. That’s the only way to maintain one’s sanity in the crazy world we live in today. There is still a sense of stability in following the imperial way regardless of which dynasty came to power. You can’t go wrong with the imperial way. After all, it has worked for 2000 years.

Only those who have experienced civil war, loss of peace and stability, physical destruction, the death of close family members attributed to the war, and the psychological trauma of loss of country first-hand with their very own eyes would truly understand.

People who advocate war today need to really see how destructive it is to society. My late maternal grandfather always said to us that young people today have never experienced war.

Below is an excerpt from Lisa See’s Shanghai Girls with my comments:

“During the coming months, many people visit, and I listen to them speak highly of my father-in-law, calling him a successful Gold Mountain man, but when I look at him during these final days, I see only a ruined man. He worked so hard, only to lose his businesses and property in China and almost everything he’d built for himself here. Now, in the end, he has to rely on his paper son for his housing, food, evening pipe, and copies of China Reconstructs that Sam buys from under the counter at the shop on the corner.

Father’s only consolations in these final months, as the cancer eats his lungs, are the photographs I cut from the magazine and pin to the wall next to his recliner [My Commentary: No politics – taking them out of their political context as the political editorials mean nothing to people like him, especially when he is part of the last generation to have lived through a dynastic period and babies born during the last few years do not count as they have no memories of it, so those babies are Republican babies who only have formative memories of the Republican period and thereafter]. So many times I see him with tears running down his sunken cheeks, staring at the country he left as a young man: the sacred mountains, the Great Wall, and the Forbidden City [My Commentary: He left China as a young man when it was still under the Qing/Ch’ing Dynasty, made money during the Republican period, and died shortly after it became Communist]. He says he hates the Communists, because that’s what everyone has to say, but he still has a love of the land, art, culture, and people of China that has nothing to do with Mao, the Bamboo Curtain, or fear of the Reds. He isn’t alone in his nostalgia and desire for his homeland. Many of the old-timers, like Uncle Wilburt and Uncle Charley, come to the house and also pore over these captured images of their lost home; that’s how deep their love of China is, no matter what it’s become [My Commentary: Again, politics mean nothing for dynastic people like these old uncles]. But all this happens very fast, and too soon Father dies.”

To that end, I also suggest that the young and independence-minded Hong Kongers who advocate war to leave the civil war generation (the “Old Seafood”) in peace. Please show some respect because you are just as bad as the Red Guards.

Old Hong Kong in Love is a Many Splendored Thing

Hollywood’s dramatized and romanticized account of the Eurasian physician, Han Suyin, who worked in Old Hong Kong during the Chinese Civil War.

Note: The backdrop in Love is a Many Splendored Thing is real.

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